Can the Government trace your family tree?

The government could perform Genealogical research if it choose to, however, that is not something that would benefit the majority of people, so it doesn't,

Adoptions do not work like you would like them to. Each of the birth certificates should be amended ones (never heard of any one having more than 2) Each certificate should have the same birth date and

place of birth, There should have a issuing date that is different on each one. You have to follow the trail, It also sounds like what was opened was the adoption agencies file and not the court file. they are two different things. Are you sure that his Aunt is not his Mother, usually it is the Mother that completes the initial application for adoption placement.

AS far as you Mothers side of the Family is concerned you have a very common problem in families

where one generation repeats the names of the proceeding generation and the pattern continues of possibly hundred of years. There are a coupe tricks, they are not great, but can help you keep

Your Cousin John R. Smith born 1970, His father Your Uncle John R. Smith both 1945 and a Great-Great Grandfather from the late 1800's with the same name straight. I use a computer program (Legacy -there is a free copy available). This was suggested to me by someone who had been searching from about 1930, and would be well over 90 now so her research was without computers and all handwritten,

First: Number each of the people as you locate them. So John R born in 1970 is written

Smith, John R (1) and the birth date

his father is Smith, John R (2) and the birth date

I like to keep a separate research log on each person I am still looking for information on,. so I have a single page for each (you can find an example online - try typing Genealogy research log in the search a bunch of examples should come up.

There are also naming patterns for different cultures. The one you are dealing with sounds like the English/American one or something similar (there are articles on Expedia about that).

I also concentrate on finding something different about each one. The easiest is middle name or birth place, but sometimes you can use spouse or school to help you keep them all separate.

A lot of times the first son is named after one or both Grandfathers, and it is the second or even the third some that is name after the paternal line and ends up with something like Smith, John Regan, the 4th This could become confusing because that ever changed as proceeding generations die with the Sr. and Jr, titles. When a Sr, dies, his son that is a Jr. becomes Sr., but the child that is the third remains the 3rd,

Now that I have probably really confused you, I am sorry but both of your questions have some pretty complete solutions and I tried to cover both with my own experience. Hope I didn't really gum you the way you were thinking about genealogical research.

http://familytimeline.webs.com/adoptionlivingrelat... UK based

"it only revealed his aunt filled out the forms in England" So you have the name f the 'aunt' and you have the county in England....as it will not say 'England' it will give you the County

"He has had 4 birth certificates" Not from Britain he hasn't! Birth certificates are historic, his original birth cert will not be changed, however he will have another adoption certificate that if you applied for is what you would get....so two officially in the UK and only ONE which is 'open' his adoption one..... on the links page of that website is the freebmd index... go onto it and put in his name and date, the child is registered by quarters 1st quarter is Jan, Feb Mar and a child born the previous quarter such as Dec can be registered as Mar or 1Q...so eg if he was born in 1940, put 'mar 1940 - mar 1941'

No Government will tell you............. Social services in the county of where he was adopted, is where the adoption file is and you will need his death certificate to prove he is dead to see if you can get any information, however normally the ONLY person who can get information is the adopted person, no one else....so you may not be able to

I am assuming this is another question

"On my mothers side, everyone named their children after themselves, and a couple of families had exactlly the same names in the same place at the same time" ....basically you have to get all the records and cross reference them, very possibly purchase copies of some of the birth certs and look at the church records, directories etc .

If your father was adopted in England, the adoption records can be requested and your father did so. If the adoption was a private one, there may not be any other records available. The records won't be in Canada, they will be where ever he was adopted, and apparently that was England.

If he was adopted in Ontario, they recently opened the adoption records but if the records were lost, the government won't have them either.

The 4 birth certificates is confusing. Usually there is an original birth certificate with the birth mother's name and an amended certificate with the adoptive parents listed.

I would suggest registering with reunion registries on the chance the birth family is searching for him. Check CyndisList - Adoption for the registries and other resources.

No, the Government can NOT trace your lineage....Despite people's dependency on Government, it really is not all-knowing. In the U.S., the Library of Congress has the largest genealogy collection in the world, but it still cannot trace one's ancestry. And no one would want it to: the Government already sticks its collective noses into people's personal business way too much.

If your father was adopted in England, that is where you need to search.

If his aunt filled out the papers, contact her, or her children.

If he was able to find his adoption papers, repeat the process.

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