too many people want to split the baby,call it manslaughter with derek chauvin,isn't it just murder,or completely innocent,one or the other?

No, it is not. Murder is a legal definition only.  It is a much higher degree of the taking of a human life than manslaughter, and carries a much stiffer penalty. Criminally negligent homicide is another legal charge and can often carry a lighter sentence than manslaughter, where it is a charge at all.  Different states have different terminology.

Derek Chauvin was doing what he had been trained to do, was following police guidelines, and did nothing wrong.  George Floyd is a piece of garbage who once pointed a loaded gun at a pregnant woman's stomach and threatened to kill her unborn child during a violent home invasion robbery.  He had enough fentanyl in his system to kill an elephant.

Imagine being asked to be a police officer in one of these "urban areas", they are all the same across the United States.  You make a lawful arrest , then you have to deal with dozens of them standing around yelling the most obscene disgusting insults at you for the entire time you are trying to make the arrest.  In this case, the idiot fought with officers repeatedly, after committing multiple crimes that got the police called in the first place. 

I know it sure seems strange, but hey, guess what, if you follow police orders, which are lawful and legal I might add, you have basically a 100% chance of survival.  CRAZY isn't it, to think something so simple solves ALL of these problems.

Oh, but let's blame the police... yah, you live in a bizarro world.

No, it's not one or the other.

I'm not sure about legal terms in Minnesota, but generally, a murder conviction requires that the state proves that there was an intent to kill.  Manslaughter doesn't require intent, only unlawful homicide.  

i think its murder

State laws vary, but manslaughter usually means incompetence/stupidity while murder implies intent. If a reasonable person concludes Chauvin wouldn't know that kneeling on Floyd's neck for nine minutes might be fatal, it would be manslaughter. I don't know how anybody could assume that, but some jurors might not be inclined to call it murder.