Are global warming deniers not lying if they're too stupid to understand that what they're saying is a lie?

It is never a good idea to blame malice, when incompetence may be the reason. "Hanlon's razor"

So no they are not lying it requires understanding and some knowledge before you can lie.

Why are you so obsessed with deniers supposedly lying, when all around you politicians and media are spreading blantant lies.

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Peggy, you are going off the deep end. Get a hold of yourself. We true scientists deal in only science. If you would scientifically prove to any of us that your theory of AGW or ACC is accurate we would be delighted to join you. You rant and you rave and you claim that you have a PhD and you don't act like one. You don't reason like one. You cajole us and offer nothing scientific. You say we are too stupid to see, well then enlighten us. It should be very simple. Everytime we ask you a scientific question you lamblast us with rhetoric. We maybe the most stupid oafs in the world but we see right through you. You are not a smart individual.

I'm just curious, did you treat your parents that way to get your way? Just asking.

If we are liars, as you claim, it should be easy for a PhD to prove us wrong.

I am having a lot of difficulty holding back on writing what you really are. You are a spoiled child who is playing with the big boys and you are not getting your way. That is as diplomatically as I can say it. If I was crude and wanted to tell you the truth, I would put it this way, "When you get home, I hope your mother comes out from under the porch and bites you."

I'm not going to report this question pegminer even though it's a clear violation of community guidelines. But if this question of yours survives it stands as a good example of the bias of Yahoo and how they allow Alarmists to get away with almost anything.

You can bet if any skeptic posted a question like this about Alarmists it would be deleted almost instantly.

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I think that most actually believe what they say. But I think that a very few know that they are lying, cherry-picking, and distorting.

Nope. There is no such thing as a AGW denier, but I do consider there are many AGW alarmists.

"Lie" does imply that you know you're saying an untruth. I suspect most of the denialists aren't quite stupid to *actually* not know that they're lying, at least for some of the things they say. But they may be lying to themselves...

Lying is knowing that you are lying. But, since they are lying, who knows if they actually know that they are lying.

Peggy you are losing it, you need help

They're still liars

many probably too ignorant to lie