Does anyone else realize roy spencer is a total sham?

Desmog does in their "research database": http://www.desmogblog.com/roy-spencer

Desmog is incomplete both in terms of missing quite a few active deniers, and in not having necessarily all significant details included and up to date on the names they do have.

Nonetheless, they have a fair bit of useful info on quite a few names, and are generally quite reliable.

On YA most deniers are such blatant nitwits and liars that one can readily catch the scent of their anti-science BS within a few sentences, but elsewhere (and once in a while even here) a clever denier comes along but slips up by giving his real name, or citing some other public name as a source, and desmog's database can then often help by providing a kind of quick Liar-Denier litmus test. Note, by the way, that this sort of list has never even been attempted by deniers despite their cheating-as-a-core-value tendency to plagiarize and make mock and dishonest copies of real science and true facts. They would have to have millions of names in such a database (much much longer than the several hundred names long list of desmog) and that would inevitably include people that most of their fellow-travelers and dupes know personally (not to mention expose the absurdity of the massive conspiracy theories without which the whole denier anti-science charade collapses like a stack of moldy playing cards).

Edit: JimZ, the science denier with the highest number of "best answers" in the global warming category of YA, pretends here that the science accepted by hundreds of Nobel Prize winning scientists is really nothing but a religion.

U.S. National Academy of Sciences, 2010:

http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=12782&...

“Climate change is occurring, is caused largely by human activities, and poses significant risks for a broad range of human and natural systems.”

http://www8.nationalacademies.org/onpinews/newsite...

“Choices made now about carbon dioxide emissions reductions will affect climate change impacts experienced not just over the next few decades but also in coming centuries and millennia…Because CO2 in the atmosphere is long lived, it can effectively lock the Earth and future generations into a range of impacts, some of which could become very severe.”

http://www.physics.fsu.edu/awards/NAS/

“The Academy membership is composed of approximately 2,100 members and 380 foreign associates, of whom nearly 200 have won Nobel Prizes. Members and foreign associates of the Academy are elected in recognition of their distinguished and continuing achievements in original research; election to the Academy is considered one of the highest honors that can be accorded a scientist or engineer.”

JimZ's claim makes roughly as much sense as asserting that a century and a half of evidence for biological evolution is but a Godless religion, or that hundreds of newspapers reporting the moon landings of the 1970s were run by religious proselytizers, or that hundreds of top historians accepting the consensus account of civilian massacres in World War II are simply advocates for the H*lohoa$x "religion."

In other words: ignore the 'religion' of the Nobel science prizes, because JimZ's degree in Abiotic Oil Geology means that whatever he cannot understand in science, or doesn't want to try to, nobody else can understand either.

Roy Spencer has acknowledged that CO2 causes global warming, but theorizes that the amount of warming is small enough to disappear within natural variation. Given we have only seen .8C of warming to date, the warming from doubling CO2 is 1.2C, and that positive feedbacks are assumed to multiply this CO2 warming, with failing models used as evidence in support, it is not an unreasonable theory.

So let me make sure I have this right. You are saying that billions in funding is going to warmer scientists. Hansen has been proclaiming AGW for many decades and is in charge of the NASA group. That is completely OK, because they are reading from your AGW scripture, but Spencer receiving any money from the Heartland group is wrong.

Dook,

Got to love your litmus test on lying. Every single "correction" to the data has created more warming. 97% of your current climate models are overestimating the warming. BUT you call me a liar for pointing out the possibility of bias. LOL. Forgive me for not trusting your OPINION.

Also, thank you for your service. You make the political bias of alarmism so evident, that all I need to do is reference people to your rants. You wonder why most people are not nearly as concerned about AGW as you are. You are the answer. So thanks.

You lefties think your politics rises to science. It doesn't. In fact it more closely resembles a religion. You have abandoned other religions only to take up another. I don't have any problem with Spencer expressing his religious belief. At least he understands what he believes and I don't see him trying to force his religion on everyone else but I certainly see that from the left. Anyone that doesn't belong to your religion is labeled a denier or a shill for Heartland or Exxon Mobil....

Roy Spencer is a religious extremist [2] and for him science comes second to his religion. [1]

"We believe Earth and its ecosystems—created by God’s intelligent design and infinite power and sustained by His faithful providence —are robust, resilient, self-regulating, and self-correcting, admirably suited for human flourishing, and displaying His glory. Earth’s climate system is no exception. Recent global warming is one of many natural cycles of warming and cooling in geologic history." [2]

Then again to deniers bias in science is only "bad" when it comes to those scientist who accept the scientific consensuses.