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To All: Do you believe Romans 3:23? If you believe this verse, then is there any man on earth besides Christ?

that is qualified to be called holy? like the catholic leader being adressed as "holy father by the catholic members?'

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hi mr. iglesia good to hear from you. hope you come now to Christ Jesus not to the vaticanos. the vaticanos can't saved you only in Christ Jesus is the salvation. John 14:6. open your eyes to the truth and the truth will set you free from such deceptiuon of the evil vaticanos. if you tuly love God thewn turn your eyes upon Christ Jesus the One True Living God Most High. your reasoning is truly of the flesh.1Co 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

1Co 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

1Co 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ. AMEN .

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the only thing man can do is to surrender to Christ Jesus and not to the doctrine of men like the vaticanos. your catechism is a posin unto the eyes of the innocent people not knowing that only Christ Jesus can saved and not the doctrine of men to do good works. for God said; Php 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

now tell me can your own fleshy good works saves you? Nope. for God said; Joh 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

Joh 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

if you see the sword in this verses then you can turn your eyes to Christ Jesus, but if you hardened your heart then you might as well fa vor the v aticanos rather than of God. Act 5:29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

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    Catholics do not believe that the Pope is sinless but that He is a sinful creature like the rest of us. The Bible speaks of only three sinless people which are Jesus, the blessed mother of God and St. John the Baptist. So obviously there are at least three exceptions and the Pope is not one of those exceptions.

    Both Scriptures and the writings of the fathers support the knowledge that all men are tempted by the seduction of sin. Being ordained into the priesthood or bishopric does not guarantee that one will never fall away from the faith or never sin. If only the righteous are able to represent God then God would have no representatives worthy on earth.

    Contrary opinions are similar to the teachings of the heresy of Donatism that stated that the sacraments administered by a priest in mortal sin are invalid and conveyed no grace to the recipient. Obviously, this is false teaching as no one could ever be assured of the grace as no one can be sure of the moral state of another. The fact is that the errors or sinfulness of a priest has no effect on the sacraments received as the priest is acting “in persona Christi” which means that Christ is acting through the priest, the priest being His hands and His mouth. In the case of an absolution the principal of “Ecclesia supplet” which grants one absolution regardless of whether the priest had valid authority to give absolution.

    The sins of the flesh are seductive even to the most righteous among us. It is through God’s grace that we retain our “free will” and may sin and fall away from the faith. God did not base the authority or righteousness of the Church on the ability of men to remain free of sin but on His own divine righteousness shown to us on earth. This is a goal of which we have hope but no assurance except on Him who died for the atonement for us. It is His Holiness and His truth and not that of men that makes His Church the “bulwark and ground of the truth”.

    In Christ

    Fr. Joseph

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